Sunday, August 15, 2010

How Truth Can Save Lives

By Ray McGovern
August 15, 2010

If independent-minded Web sites, like WikiLeaks or, say, Consortiumnews.com, existed 43 years ago, I might have risen to the occasion and helped save the lives of some 25,000 U.S. soldiers, and a million Vietnamese, by exposing the lies contained in just one SECRET/EYES ONLY cable from Saigon.

Read on.
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10 comments:

rosemerry said...

A really moving account, Ray McGovern. It is easy for others to say "you should have done it" but courageous to admit your decision and its possible result.
By the way, Geoff Morrell, Pentagon spokesman, was even worse in his "confrontational, arrogant and vulgar" reply to China when it complained about the US exercises with South Korea etc recently, according to Rick Rozoff in STOP NATO. "We do what we like, with whom we like, anywhere in the world..."

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The Goyim is ruled by Jews & probably always has been.

That's why we are referred as a Judeo/Christian society.

Americans have what is known as a "Goyishe kop"

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Check out my online book about CIA drug trafficking, support to torture, the CIA plotting to kill JFK, US war crimes, etc.

SOME UNKNOWN HISTORY OF THE U.S.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SomeUnknownUSHistory/messages

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Dick McManus said...

Let me try again to post my online book website and let me add...

in the late 1980s, I was getting information about the Contras, Honduran and/or El Salvadorian death squads from Newsweek, and I started asking question about where to report war crimes committed by host nation forces.
I took me six or seven years of asking and researching before I got found the answer myself. I finally wrote letters to the high-ups at DoD. Several months after my letters, Sec. of Defense Cowen, the DoD, Chief of Staff for Intelligence and DoD IG, Cowen wrote/signed the DoD Directive 5100.77. I never got any feedback as to my influence in causing it to be written.
On being written, DoD Directive 5100.77, a written order, it added the requirement for US service members to report host nation war crimes up the US chain of command, per the Geneva and Hague Convention.

I think this requirement was deliberately left out of Army documents and training of service members. All that was mention in Army training material and publications was about reporting war crimes by US service members, etc.

in the mid-1980s as we were planning for the possibility of deploying to Honduras and El Salvador, I told my counterintelligence teams, that I would "lock and load" and if need be, shoot some host nation folks to prevent a war crime, and to hell with what the Army regulations said. What was required by service members in the presence of host nation police or soldiers about to commit or committing a war crime, were JUST to get out of the area as soon as possible - or something to that affect - of course taking your subordinate soldiers with me as their ranking leader.

Back in 2007 or so, AWOL Bush’s Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Pace gave what amounted to a verbal order that in his opinion, US service members had an ethical duty to stop a war crime in progress or about to occur by host nation soldiers in Iraq. He did this by correcting Donald Rumsfeld on live TV. This was not what was (maybe still is) written in US doctrine -field manuals (meaning legal orders and written US military policy or rules of engagement).

Good job, Ray.

Dick McManus for State Representative, 44th LD, WA = see facebook
Chief Warrant Officer/ counterintelligence Special agent, US Army, retired.

Mon Aug 16, 11:03:00 PM 2010
Dick McManus said...

Let me try again to post my online book website and let me add...

in the late 1980s, I was getting information about the Contras, Honduran and/or El Salvadorian death squads from Newsweek, and I started asking question about where to report war crimes committed by host nation forces.
I took me six or seven years of asking and researching before I got found the answer myself. I finally wrote letters to the high-ups at DoD. Several months after my letters, Sec. of Defense Cowen, the DoD, Chief of Staff for Intelligence and DoD IG, Cowen wrote/signed the DoD Directive 5100.77. I never got any feedback as to my influence in causing it to be written.
On being written, DoD Directive 5100.77, a written order, it added the requirement for US service members to report host nation war crimes up the US chain of command, per the Geneva and Hague Convention.

I think this requirement was deliberately left out of Army documents and training of service members. All that was mention in Army training material and publications was about reporting war crimes by US service members, etc.

in the mid-1980s as we were planning for the possibility of deploying to Honduras and El Salvador, I told my counterintelligence teams, that I would "lock and load" and if need be, shoot some host nation folks to prevent a war crime, and to hell with what the Army regulations said. What was required by service members in the presence of host nation police or soldiers about to commit or committing a war crime, were JUST to get out of the area as soon as possible - or something to that affect - of course taking your subordinate soldiers with me as their ranking leader.

Back in 2007 or so, AWOL Bush’s Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Pace gave what amounted to a verbal order that in his opinion, US service members had an ethical duty to stop a war crime in progress or about to occur by host nation soldiers in Iraq. He did this by correcting Donald Rumsfeld on live TV. This was not what was (maybe still is) written in US doctrine -field manuals (meaning legal orders and written US military policy or rules of engagement).

Good job, Ray.

Dick McManus for State Representative, 44th LD, WA = see facebook
Chief Warrant Officer/ counterintelligence Special agent, US Army, retired.

Mon Aug 16, 11:03:00 PM 2010
Dick McManus said...

Let me try again to post my online book website and let me add...

in the late 1980s, I was getting information about the Contras, Honduran and/or El Salvadorian death squads from Newsweek, and I started asking question about where to report war crimes committed by host nation forces.
I took me six or seven years of asking and researching before I got found the answer myself. I finally wrote letters to the high-ups at DoD. Several months after my letters, Sec. of Defense Cowen, the DoD, Chief of Staff for Intelligence and DoD IG, Cowen wrote/signed the DoD Directive 5100.77. I never got any feedback as to my influence in causing it to be written.
On being written, DoD Directive 5100.77, a written order, it added the requirement for US service members to report host nation war crimes up the US chain of command, per the Geneva and Hague Convention.

I think this requirement was deliberately left out of Army documents and training of service members. All that was mention in Army training material and publications was about reporting war crimes by US service members, etc.

in the mid-1980s as we were planning for the possibility of deploying to Honduras and El Salvador, I told my counterintelligence teams, that I would "lock and load" and if need be, shoot some host nation folks to prevent a war crime, and to hell with what the Army regulations said. What was required by service members in the presence of host nation police or soldiers about to commit or committing a war crime, were JUST to get out of the area as soon as possible - or something to that affect - of course taking your subordinate soldiers with me as their ranking leader.

Back in 2007 or so, AWOL Bush’s Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Pace gave what amounted to a verbal order that in his opinion, US service members had an ethical duty to stop a war crime in progress or about to occur by host nation soldiers in Iraq. He did this by correcting Donald Rumsfeld on live TV. This was not what was (maybe still is) written in US doctrine -field manuals (meaning legal orders and written US military policy or rules of engagement).

Good job, Ray.

Dick McManus for State Representative, 44th LD, WA = see facebook
Chief Warrant Officer/ counterintelligence Special agent, US Army, retired.

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